I'm implying that Trump is the paragon manosphere avatar, and his administration is filled with little versions of him. The purpose of the entire administration is to challenge incumbent government apparatuses (it opened with DOGE which broadly did precisely that, they reoriented the DoD from defense to committing war crimes, they took over DOJ and turned it into a personal law firm for Trump, etc.) for the benefit of Trump.
The men in his cabinet like Hegseth and Kennedy try to appeal to the testosterone laden (and deficient) crowd. Women like Bondi and Noem also tried their best manosphere impression, but of course in classic manosphere fashion, both women were booted out of the cabinet first.
To the extent that the military believes, as its leader does, that they are not operating under "stupid" rules of engagement, and their purpose is "maximum lethality" with a policy of "no quarter" for adversaries, the US Military is currently a defacto manosphere army.
In your view, what would a manosphere leader legitimately challenging an incumbent government apparatus look like?
You have completely confused manosphere and far-right authoritarians in your mind.
The manosphere movement is about fighting misandry, for men's rights, and, to be a little reductionist - how to get laid easily and avoid committing resources to women. It's basically the fan club of Andrew Tate and the likes. They are not competent or resourceful enough to take control of a government.
There's an overlap in the venn diagram, sure. But it's much smaller than what you think it is.
No my friend, it is you who have the manosphere confused. Because the manosphere is not a sphere at all but a pipeline to right wing authoritarianism. It's not separate and apart from far right authoritarianism, it's what creates far right authoritarianism. It starts with the "fight misandry" and "men's rights" but it quickly leads men toward MAGA grifters. It's not a men's rights movement it's a movement that exploits vulnerable men.
> There's an overlap in the venn diagram, sure. But it's much smaller than what you think it is.
If the overlap is small, you'll have to explain why there are no major left wing manosphere personalities. Everyone on the left I know and follow who are fighting for men's rights and fighting misandry (a fight I've joined) does not consider themselves "in the manosphere".
> They are not competent or resourceful enough to take control of a government.
They definitely have resources -- more than a few billionaires were responsible for that.
But taking over the government, apparently, does not require competence. All it takes is a thirst for violence, a willingness to break the law and constitution, the backing of major corporations and the richest person in the world, and for enough good people to do nothing.
Manosphere is a symptom, not a problem. And manosphere is a boogie-man nothing burger that has no leverage over men, since it's co-opted by grifters and scammers trying selling you courses. There's no actual "leader" there that men recognize.
Some of those that you'd call grifters are actually seen as leaders by those who claim to be in the movement. That's the problem. If they admit it or not, that's besides the point - if young men look to the likes of Andrew Tate or Clavicular as thought leaders, then they look to them as thought leaders and thus said actors are leaders if they want to be or not.
It's similar to how some athletes are viewed as role models even if they outright tell people "I'm not a role model, I just happen to be good at a sport".
Manosphere is perfect breeding ground for your own private army since a neolith. Currently manosphere is abused by grifters, but put there somebody with ideology who actually wants to do as much damage as possible, pool money together and you have terrorist training camp.
And just to be clear, it really does not matter what ideology you will wrap your targets into.
Hate to break it to you, but they're already in the building. They renamed the "Department of Defense" to the "Department of War", told everyone there are no rules in war except who has the most guns wins, and then proceeded to bomb boats, invade Venezuela, send troops into American cities, and invade Iran, while eyeing Cuba and Canada and Greenland next.
was the guy who recently torched a warehouse not a threat?
>“You know, if you’re not going to pay us enough ... to afford to live, at least pay us enough not to do this,” the man says while lighting a roll of toilet paper on fire.
Spare the fear mongering about "my testosterones!"
Testosterone levels, when adjusted for BMI, are consistent. If you dont control for BMI they are declining, but thats a false comparison. Weed, video games and porn at home have nothing to do with testosterone.
