I see no reason to continue this conversation. All you're doing is deflecting, moving the goal posts and making stuff up (lacking EAL5 certification isn't proof these products are bad and there is ZERO evidence Microsoft, et. al. have spent $1 let alone "billions" of dollars in any failed attempts to get EAL5 certification.)

> If you are going to just keep hemming and hawing or post an unverified or useless certification do not bother to respond, that will just look bad for you.

LOL.