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It was never true.

Flatly incorrect.

In 2020, the iPhone SE sold over 24 million units.

In 2022, sales of iPhone mini 13, iPhone mini 12, and iPhone SE made up 12% of total iPhone sales.

Thats despite intentionally nerfing every one of those models.

If you look at comparable phones, the iPhone 7 and 8 (4.7") outsold the iPhone 7 Plus and 8 Plus (5.5") by significant margins.

Nobody wants large phones.


Since Apple doesn't release iPhone sales figures per model, I'm suspicious about your sales metrics.

> 12%

> Nobody wants large phones.

Be serious. 88% of buyers chose something they don’t want? Apple is saying, “actually we hate money, so we’re not going to make a model that people want to buy”?

Why is it so hard for people to accept that maybe their preference isn’t the common one?


If you're not going to engage in good faith then don't engage. My post is right there for anyone to read.

Your command is not engaging in good faith. You seem to believe somehow if Apple produced a higher end, smaller size phone it would magically outsell the higher end larger phone, with no evidence to suggest that.

The market, in both Android and iOS land has dictated larger phones are more favored. This is abundantly clear with the advent of "foldable" phone sector. On paper foldable phones make no sense, they are less resistant, more expensive and use a plastic screen, yet the market is growing year on year.

I totally respect someone's opinion on a small or large phone, but even the largest iPhone is fairly easy to hold and operate using one hand. I don't have big hands.


Literally all available evidence directly contradicts you. There is not a single iPhone generation in which larger iPhones outsold smaller iPhones of comparable capabilities.

As was clearly, painstaking explained to you already, using easy-to-understand language, the 4.7" iPhones outsold the 5.5" iPhones. And today 6.1" iPhones outsell the 6.7" iPhones. Every single time, without fail, smaller iPhones have outsold and continue to outsell larger iPhones of similar capability. This is an objective and indisputable fact.


I don’t find “nobody wants large phones” while showing that the vast majority of buyers are willingly choosing large phones to be in particularly good faith to start with.

> the vast majority of buyers are willingly choosing large phones

This is patently false. It is widely known to be patently false. I cannot understand why you would confidently assert something commonly known to be patently false.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/apples-iphone-16-still-lead...

Every single generation, without fail, larger phones are outsold by smaller phones of comparable performance and features.


Because this is a completely different statement.

This discussion isn't about people preferring the Pro to the Pro Max. That would be a pretty uninteresting discussion: they make both, buy the one you want. End of story. People are complaining because they want something that's not on offer anymore: something around the size of an iPhone 4 or SE. And, we are told, lots of people want it, but for some reason all of the smartphone manufacturers have banded together to refuse to make such a thing, because... well, the reason is never explained. But it's definitely a conspiracy, and not because people don't actually buy them in sufficient quantity.

"iPhone 16 still leads the smartphone pack" has nothing to do with that. That's a phone that is, according to the complainers, still too big. This is a 6.1" screen. That's vast compared to the 3.5" screen of an iPhone 4, and substantially larger than the 5.4" display of an iPhone 13 mini that many commenters here express a longing for.

If you're arguing that people prefer the smaller of Apple's two large phones, you're in the wrong place. If you're arguing that people prefer phones smaller than what Apple currently makes, you're using the wrong argument. Either way, you're way off track here, and your attitude towards it is highly uncalled for.



He donated all his Halliburton profits and said he would do so while VP once the conflict arose

In what way is the fundamental idea of wxWidgets not sound? It works very well, and is pretty much the only toolkit to do what it does.

Trying to shoe horn multiplatform UI into MFC? Just look at Unicode. It’s an unholy mess.

The only toolkit to do what it does? Qt does what it does, even if the approach is not the same (arguably superior), there’s also Tk. There’s also libui and IUP.


> To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.

In what ways does an exclusive right promote the progress of science and the useful arts other than by incentivizing that creative work?

In what way can that incentive work other than by compensating for the cost of production?


I typed 'Xlookup' in the search box and hit return. Nothing happened.


Nothing like regressing search right before posting.. Thanks, fixed.


Prior to that date, presumably it would be under some proprietary license, right?

That means two things:

(1) It'll be difficult to manage community changes and proprietary changes (they might even be mutually exclusive or get on different trajectories). Ultimately this model probably means little to no open contribution, little to no community.

(2) There is nothing actually forcing the open source release.

If this is something one is interested in doing, it should be woven into the AOO/AOI/OA/bylaws with an enforcement mechanism. E.g., explicitly acknowledge that the corporation is directed to treat the trust of the open source community as among the highest goods, open source has to happen at a certain interval (you might choose 14 years, modeled after the original copyright term).

You might even create structures to enforce this, e.g., SPI has a board seat with no power except to force a vote on not releasing changes on schedule, and that such a decision requires a 3/4 majority or something.


> (2) There is nothing actually forcing the open source release.

the anti-cloud-use license would include it, with no need of a separate release


What? How exactly would you make that work in practice?

Are you going to release the source on day one?

Because good luck trying to convince the board to pay for source escrow.

And if you don't do any of those things then you will, in fact, need a separate release of source code.


yes, source release on day one, proprietary license valid forever, free license becomes valid after X time and users need to only satisfy one of them.

Many projects already do this; proprietary source does not mean closed source, it can simply be freely available but with no copyright concessions


To be fair, Objective C uses message passing, which doesn't have the same performance characteristics as C++ (worse initially dealing with the selector pool rather than a vtable offset; much better later when maintaining stability in your brittle C++ ABI requires pImpl->pImpl patterns jumping all around heap memory).


it is interesting how the early iphone got such good performance and low memory usage with objective-c compared to android (java)


A minimal counterexample is a valid proof.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimal_counterexample

Please don't make personal attacks on other posters.


"Proofs" in this sense of the word are things that apply to mathematics and formal systems. Language is squishy. A minimal counterexample is potentially squishy enough to be meaningless.


Incorrect. "all software is political" is a proposition; it can be true or false.

If any minimal counterexample exists, then "all software is political" must necessarily be false.


It can also be "mostly true but exaggerated for polemic effect".

Or your definition of political might be different to the speakers.

Or it could be intended to highlight a way of perceiving the world and thus not be subject to truth claims.

Etc. This list can be extended indefinitely.

Language is not a game of symbol manipulation.


An absolute statement cannot be "mostly true."

The definition of political is irrelevant. The result is supertrue. "If even one example of software is not political, then 'all software is political' is false" is true under all admissible values of "political." This is simple logic.

All assertoric claims about the world are either true or false. If they are false they should be rejected. If they are true they should be spoken. Treating factual claims about the world as a partisan psychological litmus test is, in my judgment, morally repugnant. There are four lights.


Older Wittgenstein meet younger Wittgenstein.


If it's minimalist and written in C why does it have such specific system requirements?


Probably because of the 'minimalist' qualifier.


No... that's not what minimalism means.


I don't understand how specific requirements has anything to do with being minimalist.


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