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I've been on a contract for a multinational European company that's in partnership with ESA for the past 18 months, and I've seen a lot of money and effort spent to move out of the US cloud to OVH. After the US decided to go rogue, this project became even more urgent.

My job is basically recreating a small part of the infrastructure that was designed for AWS, while patching some shortcomings of the OVH offerings which are not as featureful.


Because until literally a year ago, the country that hosted Microsoft was one of France's most trusted allies.

It takes time to find a suitable replacement to a global monopoly.


It looks like the president - which was a businessman - will make a huge damage to American IT businesses. And IT stocks dominate the S&P 500, comprising roughly 1/3 of the index's total market capitalization... Good luck America!


One eu country or another has been talking about this for at least a decade. Nothing will happen this time either, or we'll get another of those things like the weird owncloud knock off that is totally developed by the EU


On the other hand in 2018 Europe managed to sort out LNG etc pretty quick.

I'm kind of surprised it hasn't been louder and faster after the tariffs came in, but we've already had investigation after investigation into monopoly practices, the EU is working on domestic payment processing. So the political will is there. I assume they're just quietly getting on with sorting it out.


Exactly. They know there's nothing to win by being vocal about it. But it's obvious that there has been a general shift within all of EU.


Is slightly disagree. Trump brought in the tariffs based on trade imbalances. Bringing services into the conversation would highlight that there isn't a trade imbalance. But then I'm not trying to guess what trump might do with any given input.


Not really. I mean Trump has amped the rhetoric, but there have been no new laws passed.

The privacy threats were always there.


Law is irrelevant under the power of the gun; it was the threat to invade Greenland and the threat to leave NATO which have triggered this.

(people keep saying things like "only Congress has the power to declare war"; that may be technically true, but a war declaration is a piece of paper, and practically the authorization of force is at the personal disposition of the President)


Not everything makes US news but the decision by Microsoft to shut down ICC accounts after a Trump EO on sanctions really spooked a lot of EU governments.


There were general and abstract privacy threats. The current US administration however has managed to alienate the EU population as well as EU politicians.

Trump has basically ended the alliance between the western world and the US and everybody has started to built around that fact. Just one example is that the EU has finalized multiple huge trade contracts, some were in the making for decades.

I don't think the next US administration - if the US remains a democracy - will be able to fix that. The US lately has been very vocal that they don't want to be the center of the western world anymore and the western world got the message.

Reorganizing the post-WWII world order will take some time, of course, but I feel like the world is proceeding quite fast.


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You know about Europe from Reddit subs. I know about Europe because that's where I live. We are not the same.


Sorry I thought it was the president of the US that imposed tariffs, threatened to invade Canada and Greenland, wanted to remove all Gazans from Gaza, etc, etc. not some random Reddit poster. My mistake.


No European made computers today doesn't preclude the possibility that there will be one tomorrow. RISC-V is the way out, and there are a number of European initiatives (though nothing serious just yet, I admit)

As a European dev, because I like RISC-V and because of the geopolitical situation I wouldn't bet on x86 in the long term.


I've been not betting on x86 in the long term since the PowerPC was announced ;)


It's a hivemind of a certain culture who are only taught there exist only 9 countries in the whole world: USA, Canada, South America, UK, Europe, Japan, China, Asia, Australia.

What do you mean that Africa is a continent of great diversity in cultures, languages and history? They all look poor and black to me.


The "people who'll levy the complaint you just did" and "people who'll pretend all of europe is the same when it suits them" is far too close to a circle for my liking.

That said, I endorse your complaint.


We see companies running web apps on top of Oracle or not using any version control at all, let alone agentic coding; it doesn't mean it's a good idea because someone is crazy enough to do it.

I thought the consensus what that vibe coding is a bad idea and you're supposed to review whatever is machine-generated, however "good enough" you believe it to be.


Where did I say it was a good idea?


Okay, please explain why the replies are funny.


Explaining a joke is like dissecting a frog, you learn more but you kill it in the process.


It was a joke? It comes across like you pointing out someone missing evidence and being wrong. Obviously you used the word "funny" but that's not usually a word that goes in a joke.

Nevertheless the joke is already dead. There's no reason not to explain.


I wish we had old Linus back just one day to review some vibecoded patch to Linux. I’d love to hear him rant about it.


You guys cannot be serious, it feels like Poe’s Law day everyday in here!


It really is insane how much this topic is dividing technical folks.

What GP wrote sounds like an absolute nightmare of tech debt and unmaintainable spaghetti code that nobody understands anymore to me.

But I guess for some people the increased speed outweighs all other concerns?


"Where are we? Are we where we wanted to be?"

"I'm not sure. But at least we got here fast."


I have to agree that the comment you are referring to seems to be nothing other than sarcasm despite that it doesn’t read that way at all. If it’s true, the world is definitely in trouble…


if you can't get ai to handle git, that's certainly a skill issue


> Why is nobody solving actual problems anymore?

Because that’s too risky for investors.


Boomers are back into the workforce, baby!


“They can stay home and paint all day, for the machine will do their job.”

It’s trickle-down economics 2.0. The bullshit is the same.


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