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It doesn't stop, about 75% of HN users mistake being conspiratorial/cynical for sounding smart.

"So far, nothing?" All of the companies and nonprofits participating in Glasswing to issue a joint statement is "nothing?" Or do you have a conspiracy theory ready for that as well?

The EU AI Act killed Mistral. It's not a stable or reasonable base.

Mistral's doing fine?

This is the time for the EU to offer favorable terms to Anthropic and deferred regulation. Give 'em an escape hatch.

And if they didn't have this all of HN would rant about how they aren't even telling you that their best model is unavailable, despite having a subscription.

If they tell you, it's a marketing stunt; if they don't, they're being deceptive.


I guarantee every frontier lab has an unreleased better model, that they are running through paces.

It wasn't just "drunken ramblings," they were right about the dangers they called out. Reddit is largely LLMs arguing with each other, it's so easy and only costs a few thousand dollars to spin up a mass misinformation campaign.

They were right about the risks.


Amazon owns 5% of Anthropic. I doubt this is the outcome they wanted.

This is the government trying to swing its dick around and kill Anthropic because they wouldn't allow mass domestic surveillance with their models.

They're sending a message to the tech industry as well: "do as we say, or die."

This is the result of decades of Congress abdicating power to the executive.


Amazon has up to 33 billion in Antrophic, but up to 50 billion in OpenAI. They need keep both of them in balance, to mitigate the threat of being disintermediated.

Amazon isn't just going to sit by while $33 billion is set on fire.

If burning $33B would make $66B somewhere else then I can see them doing it.

> This is the government trying to swing its dick around and kill Anthropic because they wouldn't allow mass domestic surveillance with their models.

Amodei has been calling for models to be regulated, so he got his wish.


It's one thing to have 5%, it's another for Jassys utter failure in Amazon AI efforts. They are nowhere, and the former isn't gonna save the latter job.

WH is lying again of course. Has nothing to do with Amazon or security. Vengeance or trying to help SpaceX. Maybe WH did not like the bad stock price development after the IPO.

This is the worst possible take. Responsible disclosure shouldn't be a thing? Defenders shouldn't have the chance to frontrun?

I disagree.

See above where I frame this as a classical arms race and the equilibria (stalemate) between white/black hats is a very safe and stable place to be.

You and I don't get to choose who the white hats are and those actors could change dramatically as US administrations change, etc.

It's better to rapidly reestablish a new stalemate ... and I say that as someone who has spent the last six months rapidly triaging vulnerabilities and newly discovered attack surface in an attempt to safeguard the livelihoods of everyone who depends on my business.


Lots of people on HN, and lots of chronic forum users, think that being skeptical/bitter/cynical makes them sound smarter.

Most nerds (like myself) outgrew this edgy mentality in highschool/college. Realistically this mentality just makes it impossible to see anything except through the darkest possible lens.


I doubt it was an actual jailbreak.

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