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No, it’s actually the same issue with AI in a lot of cases. In perfect conditions it can work reliably, but outside of that it falls apart in a way humans don’t.

This has not been my experience with Waymo. I drove a total of about ~3.5 hours in Waymos in LA when I was visiting and their robustness to very unusual situations absolutely floored me.

I am sure you can find truly out-of-distribution cases where the car will make a mistake, but the data shows that this is more rare than a human driver making a mistake.


How many times did they need remote assistance? Those teams aren’t driving remotely but Waymo doesn’t pay for entire groups to exist without need.

No, it’s actually the same issue with AI in a lot of cases. In perfect conditions it can work reliably, but outside of that it falls apart.

Did the hype cycle not have an impact on employment with the various layoffs? Or is this and admission that the layoffs were for other reasons and were just attributed to AI?

I’m not surprised about productivity though. Efficiency gains are limited by the actual bottlenecks. And truthfully, I think people are deluding themselves a bit about how effective vibe coding is and how much faster they are actually moving when you consider developers still need to form an understanding of the codebase and its systems.

Outside of coding, is there really a use case for LLMs that has the potential to make big efficiency gains? Idk.


I've found the best way for me to wield it is the tool to build tools. I would have never in a million years been able to code. But I've used it to replace things I was paying hefty monthly subscriptions for....

So I'm not actually being more productive, but I've cut my costs significantly to do the same things I could do before.


I thought I would do this, but of all the vibe coded tools I've built, I think I still use...one. The rest are just not worth the upkeep relative to the utility, or are either broken functionally or in their UX and I can't be arsed to put the effort into making them good. Which brings up why these tools didn't really exist in the first place.

Of course ymmv, and if you find yourself paying subscriptions for stuff you can replace with vibe coded apps, all power to you.


Looks like their rampant vibe coding is starting to catch up to them. Expect to see many pre vulns like this in the future.

The guy has like 10 thousand comments boosting AI and 600 karma, whatever his agenda is people aren’t buying it.

He is a paid Vercel shill (literally, he does sponsored content for them on his YouTube channel)

Not in a few years.


How are you coming to that conclusion? Vibes?

Also why would you expect a large corporation to not be completely bogged down by bureaucracy and inefficiencies? That’s been my experience. The case against large government also applies to large business, it’s just that one has a monopoly on violence and the other has to compete in the market.


Right, all large human organizations have a base-line of inefficiency and corruption, with some amount of variance.

I'm not arguing that is great, or that we should simply expect it. But, that it's somewhat dishonest to portray government as unique in this.


The issue is that it’s actually very difficult to make that pro-taxation argument, because that position doesn’t have much merit. Pretty much everyone’s experience with things ran by the government is purely negative. They waste billions (trillions?) and then print even more money and inflate the currency. And then you end up with completely subpar services at best.

Fun fact, Americans pay more in healthcare taxes than most Canadians. Our healthcare is free. Well, kinda, about ~75% is free, for Americans it’s more like %40.

But there is absolutely no argument that can be made that if we just raise taxes a little bit we can solve all our problems. The math just doesn’t work out.

Personally I favour the thinking of Adam Smith, John Locke, Rothbard and Friedman, the classical liberal tradition, and as governments balloon across the west, more and more people are coming to that same conclusion. Give us a small efficient government, stay out of the market as much as possible with little to no interference, stop printing money and trying to control the economy it from the top down, stop being technocrats, let people live their lives the way they wish.


Can you outline how you would apply that to healthcare?

Apply what to healthcare?

"Give us a small efficient government, stay out of the market as much as possible with little to no interference"

That’s your answer?

What is this, some sort of cult?

You mean the cult of "I can't see the viruses therefore they dint exist"? As in "I can't imagine something so it means it's a lie"?

Indeed, quite weird and no imagination.


No, it is an as snarky response to a person being snarky about usefulness of AI agents.

It does seem like there is a cult of people who categorically see LLMs as being poor at anything without it being founded in anything experience other than their 2023 afternoon to play around with it.


Who cares? Why are people so invested in trying to “convert” others to see the light?

Can’t you be satisfied with outcompeting “non believers”? What motivates you to argue on the internet about it? Deep down are you insecure about your reliance on these tools or something, and want everyone else to be as well?


Why do people invest themselves so hard in interjecting themselves into conversations about Ai telling people it doesn't work?

It feels so off rebuilding serious SaaS apps in days for production, only to be told it is not possible?


Who here said ai “doesn’t work”?

Kimi costs 0.3/$1.72 on OpenRouter, $200 for that gives you way more than you would get out of a $200 Claude subscription. There are also various subscription plans you can use to spend even less.

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