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Looking forward to putting every apology statement into this - although many of them tend to require OCR for being posted as images or screenshots.

Heck of a Patch Tuesday.


Gobsmacking details about Altmans' time as Y Combinator president, in case anyone's wondering.

Fantastic reporting.


As is always the case with incredibly precise and rigorously fact-checked reporting like this, where every word is chosen carefully (the initial closing meeting for this one was nearly eight hours long, with full deliberation about each sentence), there is more out there on that subject than is explicitly on the page.


One of the decidedly eerier parts of this story as you keep reading are all the gaps between what people are saying about Altman, and what they clearly want to say about Altman but can't.


Throughout my life, what colleagues/friends are unwilling to remark plainly on has been the most telling factor of someone’s character to me.


This can be true I suppose, but equally I have a few friends who practically play characters as if they've resigned themselves to a role in a sitcom. For instance: one of my friends is late to just about everything and treats everyone as if we are on-call. We plainly note this repeatedly, the friend is, I hope, equally frustrated and embarrassed by it, and in spite of this nothing changes. This is obviously a critical element to their broader character.

Perhaps you mean to distinguish social groups without much intimacy? To which I'm sure we could provide some convincing cases, but this seems like a silly heuristic generally.


I have been in or next to a number of social circles with such missing stairs, where for various reasons people in the groups have decided to not directly acknowledge certain Facts that are known about some members, because it would involve them confronting their hypocrisy.

Someone cheating regularly on their partner, flagrant substance use problems, controlling people who ostracize anyone who doesn't agree with their sometimes insane perspectives...

People will go along with quite a lot to avoid friction, especially as they get older and picking up new social circles becomes higher cost.

It's possibly the most telling thing, when you see what people say is a hard line versus how they actually respond to it.


Maybe they have ADHD because the symptoms fit, if they really do acknowledge the problem yet cannot fix it.


To be clear, I am ADHD (executive-type) and am empathetic to my friend. All considered I am quite fond of my time spent with them. But in regards to developing a model for ones character I don't think it is very helpful to allow disabilities to shape them. It is simply impossible to share the individual essence related and is better understood through the manifestation which is ultimately shared. And regardless I would hope they would seek this diagnosis as a function of their own introspection according to my account of the phenomenon, not some extrapolation. [0]

To engage with your curiosity of their situation though, they spend a lot of time at poker tables, sitting for 8+ hours. I would assume this is not a common enjoyment for most ADHD minds. From my experience as soon as I'm out the action for a string of hands I'm completely checked out of any rigid strategy. Now sit me at a blackjack table and I can crank hands until the morning! But here I am being fed action and drinks basically on demand.

[0] I'm just thinking out loud here, not accusing you of making any claim related


that's not ADHD. People with ADHD would improve - it may take a LOT of time, but it will happen. Quite often they will go to the extreme and come in way too early. My bet would be on Cluster B personality trait e.g. lack of empathy and constant need for attention and validation.

ADHD frequently co-occurs with other conditions.


That is not always true and not always with everyone. Many people who have ADHD have unsolvable time blindness. They don't mean to do it but their brain chemistry literally disallows them from not doing so in many cases.


Correct. It's been a lifelong struggle for me. I have found outside ways to address it, but even in my 30's I will forget to eat meals or do chores if I don't set disruptive alarms to do so.


That's exactly my point! you do set alarms, you seek the solution. You feel bad when running late so you mask or compensate. If you lack empathy or seek attention, you wouldn't do those things.


I would say I didn't mean the statement that generally - it was contextual to the topic.

i.e. If your friends wont remark on your penmanship, who cares? If they wont remark on how you treat service workers at a restaurant, that's probably concerning.


I should've edited my comment, on reflection my example doesn't fit! I think rincebrain had a nice way of wording what I now believe to be your intent!


> where every word is chosen carefully (the initial closing meeting for this one was nearly eight hours long

For anyone unfamiliar with this process, the New Yorker documentary is well worth the watch: https://www.netflix.com/title/81770824


Thanks for sharing! I saw the 100 years exhibit in person, which was really interesting. I was especially moved by the display of and context around the Hiroshima issue. I didn’t know there was also a documentary, and I’m excited to see it


You mention many proxies of Musk who post negative content about Altman.

In your investigation were you able to determine if Altman has similar proxies?

How common would you say that this is? Do these kinds of people generally have teams of people who sling mud for them?

Can you speculate on how that manifests on a site like Hackernews?


This might be the major dilemma in the tech industry today, where the natural tendencies of literalism and optimism among technologists has turned into a form of defensive credulity. The real world rigor of The New Yorker’s editorial standards and concerns about defamation necessitate this circumscribed style that rewards close reading and skepticism, but those aren’t in favor in the tech industry currently.


> ... where every word is chosen carefully...

In light of that...

> "Texts from this period show Altman coördinating closely with Nadella"

Why did you make the odd choice of a diaresis on this word?


if this isn’t a joke - new yorker style uses a diaresis when a word has a repeated vowel where the second vowel is part of a different syllable. coördinate, coöperate, and reëlect are probably the most common places where this comes up

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-curse-of-...


It is how you properly tell apart a coop which houses chickens from a coöp which is a business entity owned by its members


Ah yes, the diaresis will relieve those confused chicken farmers! A thousand thanks to The New Yorker.

There is something disturbing about the idea that 8 hours must be spent by editors deliberating about each sentence in a piece like this. It's almost like you're reinforcing the idea of just how powerful this power-seeking human has become.

We're all here worried about calling the guy liar liar pants on fire, but maybe none of that matters to him as long as he comes away looking even more powerful? That's what he's so successful optimizing for.

How neo-medieval peasant of me to feel this awe - great piece. Insane world we live in.


With this in mind, I think you would be the perfect investigative journalist to track down the archives of The National Enquirer.

This was our "hometown" gossip paper in South Florida, and you should have seen the pictures and stuff that they did print. And this was after threats of celebrity lawsuits in the mid-1970's had curtailed any tendency to exaggerate.

Back when almost nobody outside of New York had heard of Trump, he started coming down to play golf and made quite an impression among the well-established Florida real-estate operators. They could see right through him like any other fake millionaire from New York, which were a dime a dozen. There was just a general consensus among many visitors that what happens in South Florida stays in South Florida. Epstein grew up in this environment.

You would see pictures of him with unidentified non-Stormy dates, and some insinuation in the gossip column but you knew they were holding back from anything that could not be truly verified.

By the time of his presidential run, it looks like he had become well acquainted with David Pecker who owned the Enquirer. I wouldn't be surprised when he sold the publishing company that there are archives somewhere that contain all the supporting stuff that was unverified at the time. When Trump & Epstein were much younger running buddies for so long.


Calling your own article all those things is a major turn-off.


Discord's main problem for me is that it's built around people having one and only one user, which is a huge privacy and pseudonymity mess. The only alternative that works somewhat is using the PTB version of Discord for your "alts".

If this project has genuinely decent multi-user support instead of the miserable experience of Discord, I'd emphasize and promote that first over being a Discord-like, since this genuinely improves on some of the privacy issues of Discord, despite AT Proto being public.

Better to distinguish the product from Discord rather than promoting how similar it is. Because of the public architecture, it's more similar to a forum board than Discord anyway, so you could also just as well give people another interface by showing the community as a conventional website. People may or may not like it, but it's basically what it practically is.

One of the big issues with Discord is that it takes public knowledge like wikis and makes it private instead - and beholden to the whims of mercurial mods and admins. Information being public doesn't have to be a bad thing that way.

Instead of Discord, you can give the people Discourse. :)

tl;dr: AT Proto being "open" can look like a bad thing in nominally private spaces like Discord, so promoting as something more open like an open forum board rather than a closed Discord server might be more interesting and persuasive. But I'm also a forum board evangelist.


Marked as wontfix.


What a crazy timeline this has been.

(1) May 04 2019: "Tell HN: Archive.is inaccessible via Cloudflare DNS (1.1.1.1)" [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19828317]

    eastdakota on May 4, 2019 on: Tell HN: Archive.is inaccessible via Cloudflare DNS...

    [Via https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19828702]
    
    We don’t block archive.is or any other domain via 1.1.1.1. Doing so, we believe, would violate the integrity of DNS and the privacy and security promises we made to our users when we launched the service.
   
    Archive.is’s authoritative DNS servers return bad results to 1.1.1.1 when we query them. I’ve proposed we just fix it on our end but our team, quite rightly, said that too would violate the integrity of DNS and the privacy and security promises we made to our users when we launched the service.
   
    The archive.is owner has explained that he returns bad results to us because we don’t pass along the EDNS subnet information. This information leaks information about a requester’s IP and, in turn, sacrifices the privacy of users. This is especially problematic as we work to encrypt more DNS traffic since the request from Resolver to Authoritative DNS is typically unencrypted. We’re aware of real world examples where nationstate actors have monitored EDNS subnet information to track individuals, which was part of the motivation for the privacy and security policies of 1.1.1.1.
    
    EDNS IP subsets can be used to better geolocate responses for services that use DNS-based load balancing. However, 1.1.1.1 is delivered across Cloudflare’s entire network that today spans 180 cities. We publish the geolocation information of the IPs that we query from. That allows any network with less density than we have to properly return DNS-targeted results. For a relatively small operator like archive.is, there would be no loss in geo load balancing fidelity relying on the location of the Cloudflare PoP in lieu of EDNS IP subnets.
    
    We are working with the small number of networks with a higher network/ISP density than Cloudflare (e.g., Netflix, Facebook, Google/YouTube) to come up with an EDNS IP Subnet alternative that gets them the information they need for geolocation targeting without risking user privacy and security. Those conversations have been productive and are ongoing. If archive.is has suggestions along these lines, we’d be happy to consider them.

(2) Sep 11 2021: "Does Cloudflare's 1.1.1.1 DNS Block Archive.is? (2019) (jarv.is)" [https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28495204]


The 1.1.1.1 referred to in the above is Cloudflare's main resolver, 1.1.1.2 & 1.1.1.3 are for those intentionally looking for malware and content blocking.


I completely forgot this existed.

I like the occasional feature of appending a question mark to your query to get a nice summarizer to comb through the internet so I don't, but I only use it a few times a month.


A few years ago, someone on Twitter had a really cool proposal for how to revamp the entire format of the Oscars, even taking the importance of commercials into account, but I can't for the life of me find it anymore.


A lot of people also got into buying Macs for OpenClaw, so demand is probably up as well.


What's the deal with the Mac Mini and Openclaw? a vps is a better alternative.

is it because iMessage?


You do actually need to run it on a Mac, if (and only if!) you require integration with Mac-only software. But the main factor is probably just "all the cool kids are doing it" ;)


iMessage… and safari. Browsing the web from a headless vps has hurdles.


> safari. Browsing the web from a headless vps has hurdles

Hooking things up to puppeteer maybe?

You can use pupeteer to then use the chromium control remote (debug?) option iirc which uses websockets underneath the hood

Then you can connect this from your pc or theoretically any Control server. Surprised to not hear much work on that front now that you mention it.


The CDP debugger is easily detectable client side and many websites will flag your traffic as undesirable


I didn't know that, Sorry about that, but is there no way to make CDP debugger less detectable. Seems doable to me but maybe there's a catch if its not already done by somebody maybe?


there is so many way to make it undetectable, but it is cat and mouse game.


iMessage is the only explanation I can find. Minis aren’t powerful enough for agentic models unless you’re getting a rather expensive version (I could see the MX Pro w/ 64GB working). At which point they don’t have the price appeal of the base model anymore.


Yeah on the discord you see a lot of people asking about how much RAM they need to run local models. There seems to be a lot of demand for it.


I am not convinced there are that many people actually buying macs for OpenClaw.


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