Time was everyone took pride in writing HTML in Notepad.

I realize Claude Code is pretty impressive in a lot of ways -- certainly the way I'm working looks really different than it did last year -- but I think it is kind of funny that we are rediscovering basic ideas like "HTML is capable of richer display than Markdown."

Most people who have office jobs don't know how to do this either

Really? You think the alternate mode where you're running 5-year-old versions of stuff with tons of known security flaws is better?

What part of "We reviewed all relevant CVEs as they came out to make a call on if they apply to us or not and how we mitigate or address them" gave you that impression?

My experience with how such a strategy typically plays out in reality.

>running 5-year-old versions of stuff with tons of known security flaws

No one in this thread proposed that, or anything that could be reasonably assumed to have meant that.

Right, yeah, instead you can run ancient versions of everything and encounter a whole different class of risks

That's not at all what OP is talking about.

> To me, I prefer desktop apps because I KNOW when I've upgraded - it either said "upgrade now?" and did it, or, in the olden days, I had to track it down, or I installed an updated version of a distro, which included updated apps, so I expected some updates.

Yeah, but as a maintainer it's the opposite, isn't it? I don't have to worry about supporting version current - 3 in the Polish version of Windows because you're always running the version I've deployed in the environment I've deployed it in (I mean, yes, I'm oversimplifying given the frontend component, but that's still a much smaller surface).

I thought "who exactly is saying it's dead?" and found your ranking gives it a 94/100 liveliness, so I guess not that many.

All of these companies are hiring constantly even as they do layoffs so this is an easy story to write every time there are layoffs.

> Surely news outlets like the NYT must realize that savvy web surfers like yours truly when encountering "difficult" news sites—those behind firewalls and or with megabytes of JavaScript bloat—will just go elsewhere or load pages without JavaScript.

Seems like a gross overestimation of how much facility people have with computers but they don't want random article readers anyway; they want subscribers who use the app or whatever.

We are all very impressed, I assure you.

Going by the upvotes I have generally yes people do seem to think so. It's only weird folks like you and the other guy that seem to have a problem.

It's exactly why I don't do more because I really don't want to be associated with people like you folks.

Well one thing we can be sure of is your self regard.

Yes because not assenting to the anon rando who makes a snide insulting comment is outside the bounds of normal well regulated self interest. I can't possibly eyeroll any harder at you.

I just don’t know what patting yourself on the back for your incorruptibility is really adding to the discussion.

Had you said this first instead of the snark I would have had a more reasonable initial reply just fyi.

My intent wasn't to pat myself on the back it was to make OP aware people have not all just been going along with it using myself as an example, and then it turned into a nice little side thread with me and the OP talking about that conceptually.

I can appreciate you disagree with how I chose to go about that though as objectively it was self centered.