heh, funny you say that - I just yesterday almost bit at some obvious Nego-Trolling on here and remembered "Just don't engage".

Some people, for some reason at certain points in their life, just want to shit on other people's stuff, any way that they can, for... reasons.

I mean, clearly it's not to make themselves feel better, because how on Earth could that work?

There's no value in engaging, in any way whatsover. Sadly there's very little that can be done to prevent that form of human behaviour, without otherwise souring the experience for the generality.

*shrug, whatchagonnado?

It can make them feel better by giving them a chance to look down on someone else. (The "looking down" doesn't have to be the content of the post - the act of trolling is a form of looking down on someone.)

> It can make them feel better by giving them a chance to look down on someone else.

That's the idea but it does not work. Self esteem is still negative afterwards

Whether or not it works isn't what matters. It's whether or not the perpetrator, consciously or not, believes it works.

> I mean, clearly it's not to make themselves feel better, because how on Earth could that work?

When you're really, really angry you look for an outlet. Some people kick the dog, some abuse their gf/wife/kids, others troll on online forums.

Yeah, I get that. But does it actually make them feel better?

What do they say about sugaring trauma?

It's been a fun day for me today - my bank here in the UK suffered downtime which not only affected the app and online banking, but also online and possibly offline payments too.

I was glad when it finally came back on, after four hours off, so that I could order some material for a job... only to find that my supplier's site wasn't working. It's on shopify.

So too the two the other suppliers I use who offer the same thing I need, so I'm kinda stuffed as ordering from anytime now means I likely won't get my stuff in before the weekend, which is when I was planning on working with it.

Wonderful.

just take the day off mate, this shit happens in every field of work

eh, unfortunately it's not today's work that's impacted (beyond wasting some time), but this weekend's, which I thought I had wonderfully set up, taking advantage of time whilst my family's away.

I find there's a certain flavour of Scot that's quite gesticulative - I know that I'm one. My partner's Italian and I guess my gesticulation's ramped up since we've been together because when I watched footage from an event recently, I was borderline horrified at how wild my expressions and gesticulations were, especially as the person I was talking to (well 'at', seemingly) is an impressively English sort. Made for quite the contrast in manner.

I looked like I was trying to sell Guybrush Threepwood a sinking ship... .

Yet the same skill that leads to perfect flatness then also leads to being able to make something look organic and natural, should they so wish.

It's about honing ability and competence.

The taste for perfect imperfection.

I only just learnt about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wabi-sabi

Perhaps "artisinal" encompasses the idea?

Ira Glass is imperfect perfectionism.

Funny, I'm reading this as very dry, tongue-in-cheek humour.

er.. no - I've been a daily user of Photoshop since '98 or so, but after getting annoyed with Adobe's subscription model a few years back I bought Affinity Photo and looked to move over entirely to that, yet I ended up back in Photoshop purely because of literal decades of muscle memory meant that every interaction that I had with Affinity's offering came with an undesirable cognitive speedbump.

I'm not a fan of Gimp (haven't given it a shot in over a decade, to be fair) but if it covers the basic capabilities of PS and provides for an almost straight swap for users looking to change, then it is literally the layout and shortcuts that will be the decider for them.

Seems like you're actually agreeing. What you're attached to is all the work you put into learning Photoshop, not the particular UI of Photoshop. Learning GIMP is throwing hundreds or thousands of hours of work into the trash. IMO, learning GIMP is going to be a lot easier, though, because it's logically organized - it's easy to guess where things will be.

That's always going to be a problem with switching from anything to anything other than a clone. I can't play superior, I'm still clinging to MATE for goodness's sake, but at least I know I'm being dumb and have plans to move.

Define 'logically organised' in the context of 'a creative' using a piece of software?

Back in the Mac vs. PC days, people would argue themselves blue in the face about which system was the 'more logical' with the non-answer essentially boiling down to the extent of one's experience and the preference of one's capacity to plumb the depths of the preferred OS.

Here, we're discussing a means for people who might otherwise not have any desire to use GIMP being able to use GIMP without having to throw said thousands of hours of experience. Whether they then want to transition to a GIMP-first comprehension of the software is another matter entirely.

This gets rid of the speedbump.

Unfortunately, it doesnt get rid of the singularly-offputting name, but that's a matter for another thread.

egh, as much as I enjoyed his Dogme 95 fayre when I was young and far more self-important, I find his later 'big cinema' output turgid twaddle.

Melancholia was just about bareable but from Mandalay onwards I could barely struggle through to the end of his flicks.

Nymphomaniac made me almost literally angry at its denouement. Just.. shit.

The origin of 'dark DNA' begins to make more sense through this sort of lens, except the system somehow maintained a level of compensation to fix all its flaws.

It's hard to believe, and I repeatedly said as much to people who thought as much prior to the vote who 'pfffd' me in response, and yet here we are.

The right to vote on fundamental societal issues should come with some sort of mental means testing. I'm only half-kidding. I think.

It is? Or is it just a pragmatic dislike?