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These guardrails are solely a reason for using your data for training purposes. Every flagged message can be used for training.

This sounds backwards, any interrupted conversation becomes less useful for training.

> We will require 30-day retention for all traffic on Mythos-class models, on both first- and third-party surfaces. We won’t use this data to train new Claude models, or for any non-safety-related purpose

Whatever problem we might have with them, they explicitly say that they do not do this in the launch post.


"We won’t use this data to train new Claude models"

What about non-Claude models?


"Introducing our latest model, CIaude, spelled with a capital "i" and legally distinct from Claude!"

If they can train the classifier to have fewer false positives that would be great.

why would they? This safety stuff is a money maker & wealthy elite corporation solidifier.

This is the take off of the 'permanent underclass'; Anthropics safety delusion will enshittify very nicely for the rich and powerful.


I'd expect that everything they see gets used for for training purposes (and data mining in general) regardless of if it's flagged or not. It'd take a whistleblower for you to ever find out either way.

this reasoning is inverted lol they would get a lot more information by letting you use it. so much weird drama around reasonable guardrails for an experimental model

If we're doing conspiracy theories what if fable is really dumb and not better than opus and the guardrails hide that nicely. Meanwhile the hype train keeps chugging.

So they use this "suspicious behavior" as a reason to train on our data.

I'm very suspicious as they sent out an "We're updating our Privacy Policy" email right before the launch. I fear they try to take advantage of their market position by doing things with user data no other company could do because they know users don't have another choice.

Prob related to this part of the blog post:

> We will require 30-day retention for all traffic on Mythos-class models, on both first- and third-party surfaces. We won’t use this data to train new Claude models, or for any non-safety-related purpose, and we’ve instituted new privacy protections including logging all human access to the data and ensuring its deletion after 30 days in almost all cases (see this post for further details). The data will help us defend against complex and novel attacks (including new jailbreaks and attacks that operate across many requests) as well as help us identify and reduce false positives.


It's a specific change: For safety evaluation, Fable data will be retained for the initial period notwithstanding prior opt-out

I don't think they deserve your sympathy. I don't think there is an employee there that couldn't find another great job somewhere else.

It seems to me the max memory you can buy in a laptop stagnated for the past 3 years or so.


And the max storage in pre-built computers has stagnated at 2010 levels (~1TB). This was first due to the switch to the much more expensive and much faster charge trap flash. In the 2020s it finally started to approach 2010 sizes in pre-builts but then the corporate finance wars re: fab capacity happened.


I have always felt insulted that most laptops even offer a low 4 GB of RAM I rather take 16 GB in previous gen memory


My several years old laptop has 128GB of RAM, is that not enough? I admit that it's a pretty heavy one.


for the most part, unless soldered down, it has been hard to find higher than dual channel (maybe quad for a massive odm gaming laptop). each stick and platform having set maximum memory capacity has put a glass ceiling for those machines.

doesn't matter anyway when things are not reasonably priced. i am stuck at the same memory capacity in my personal system for the better part of two decades, partially due to the above and the current pricing today.


Why is it even necessary to save this data in the cloud?


How do you expect them to read it?


On my phone. I assume they get to the cloud via my phone in the first place anyway.


It's essentially a new napster.


It's the biggest theft in history.


Well, it really depends on your definitions, but I'll probably put the biggest theft in history on European imperialism in the 14-19th centuries, seizing unfathomable amounts of land, resources and slave labor from other civilizations.


I rephrase then: The biggest theft in the 21st century.


I assume it's more a talent acquisition as the company only exists for 18 months or so and you can't acquire enterprise customers that quickly, not even as an AI vendor.


Not sure who wrote this article but Emmi AI is clearly not Vienna-based.


Maybe they've fixed it since publishing, but the opening line now says:

> Europe's leading artificial intelligence firm, France's Mistral AI, said on Tuesday it has acquired Linz-based Emmi


Yes, they even now say "(This story has been corrected to say that the startup is based in Linz, not Vienna, in paragraph 1)"


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